Saturday, February 24, 2018

Alternative draft (nov 2016)

(note: this is my old draft, I posted it on Facebook in our group and send it via email few times already, but while our blog definitely not most visited - may be this text eventually will find its reader)

Ken Levasseur and his “Third Phase program” :

Ken’s Levasseur, an american scientist now living in Hawaii, is both famous for his liberation of two captive dolphins from Lou Hermann’s laboratory where he worked in in 1977, than for his “Third phase program” project : his views and papers are being completely ignored by most of the activism since several years, and we think this particularly unfair, as his ideas and projects were paradoxically highly praised by several actors of the activism less than a decade ago. The fact that his views are being ignored is symptomatic of a larger issue with disregarding alternatives or movements going beyond sanctuaries as the “only solution” for captive cetaceans.

1) It relies completely on having a genuine, equal relation between two species - if the humans fail somewhere, the dolphins have all the rights and possibility to leave.
2) It has put forward the idea of making some unusual high-level, two-way (where dolphins/cetaceans become real practitioners, whose words matters!) communication as part of social reality.

Wording was aimed at scientifically-minded auditory, and some problems were left out of main articles in attempt to provide just most important points. It was in 1996! Unfortunately, work on those ideas stalled, and even with my small additions on replacing (gradually?) ‘feeding’ with cooperative hunting (fishing) and finding new ways of doing medicine, and a bit more polishing on how to show language and how to choose first subset of language to use together - those remain more like ‘nice ideas’ than complete plan from A to Z. But may be making plan from A to Z on very beginning is wrong exactly due to unflexibility of such plans. Russell Hockins for example hopes at least Orcas can master use of interspecies language without spending too much effort on simplest concepts. [2] Only practice will tell.


In Ken’s own words [1]: According to this proposal, three basic (but related) changes must occur in the classical dolphin holding facility management plan. The first change must be to the use of social reinforcement, exclusively, in training and communication with dolphins, rather than food reinforcement with its food deprivation as motivation control. This change is implemented through a language program utilizing a human whistled language. The second change must be a "feed at will" policy that can be expected to double the food budget at participating facilities.”.... “Human language does more than command a subject to behave a certain way. True language communicates abstract social signals between practitioners which involve positive as well as neutral and negative attitudes. Human language allows the subject to reject commands while maintaining integrity! The result of this form of abstract communication is the creation of complex cultural systems as well as the reinforcement of social bonds between language users. The use of immersion language training, instead of operant conditioning in a new approach to interacting with dolphins, would help create the social bonds needed to make the replacement program work. The flexibility and specificity of language would remove much of the frustration and resulting stress from close human / dolphin interactions. A truly positive environment for learning and exchange could evolve under such a program.”.... “It is still scientifically possible that dolphins may someday demonstrate communication abilities at or near the adult human level using a human whistled language or a deciphered dolphin communication code. For this reason dolphin subjects must be accorded the same respect as humans if they are to be used in language experiments and programs. Because of this potential and the need for trust in order for the social approach outlined above to work, this respect must be built in and implemented from the planning stage of developing the language and human / dolphin interaction programs. “ ..”The Third Phase open-ocean programs may use enclosures where the dolphins can go and be secure, day or night, but access to and release from the enclosures must be available to the dolphins.” ..”Obviously for a program like this to work, the dolphins will have to want to stay or return to man-made enclosures. The best incentive for this is excellent treatment along with human companionship, as well as the obvious, interest generating activities. Under these conditions, these speaking / whistling dolphins would literally become ambassadors. “

Of course, initial idea was a bit too tourist-based for my new views, yet we are not forced to follow just one text, there are others related philosophical works about finding our new place in the world, where tourism will be replaced by ..pilgrimage? Hard to name it accurately - something deliberately uneasy, and wonderful, with rules of interaction based on understanding of this wonder and relative fragility of it. See Anthony Weston’s ideas, for example : “Environmental Ethics as Environmental Etiquette: Toward an Ethics-Based Epistemology”, published in vol. 21 of magazine Environmental Ethics, summer 1999, here is quote from p. 126-127, - “To begin with, certain kinds of self-fulfilling prophecies turn out to be crucial in ethics. There is, in particular, a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy in which one of the main effects of the “prophecy” is to reduce someone or something in the world—to make that person or thing less than they or it are or could be, to diminish some part of the world’s richness and depth and promise—and in which this reduction in turn feeds back not only to justify the original prophecy but also to perpetuate it. This process is therefore self-validating reduction. There are all too many examples. Animals reduced to pitiful or hostile vestiges of their former selves, whose incapacities and hostility are then taken to justify exploitation or further violence. ”.... “  To break this cycle of “reduction,” it is necessary to invoke a parallel cycle of “invitation”—indeed, quite precisely, self-validating invitation. Here the kind of practice asked of us is to venture something, to offer an invitation to, or to open a possibility toward, another being or some part of the world, and see what comes of it. We are called, in fact, to a kind of etiquette once again, but here in an experimental key: the task is to create the space within which a response can emerge or an exchange coevolve. “ [....] “ Places, buildings, communities can be more or less inviting: we need to plan for what Mary Midgley calls the “mixed community.” Considering—inviting—other animals in this sense, for example, partly means designing places and media where we can meet each other halfway. Sometimes it is as simple as designing places that they and we can safely share.”

Speaking about wrong kind of relations embedded in current capitalist mentality I (A.R>) wish to add one more important bi-quotation.

First there is quote from Anarchist FAQ:

As well as economic incentives, the creation of externalities flows from the price mechanism itself. The first key issue, as green economist E. F. Schumacher stressed, is that the market is based on total quantification at the expense of qualitative differences; for private enterprise is not concerned with what it produces but only what it gains from production.” This means that the judgement of economics ... is an extremely fragmentary judgement; out of the large number of aspects which in real life have to be seen and judged together before a decision can be taken, economics supplies only one — whether a thing yields a profit to those who undertake it or not.” [Small is Beautiful, p. 215 and p. 28] This leads to a simplistic decision making perspective:
Everything becomes crystal clear after you have reduced reality to one — one only — of its thousand aspects. You know what to do — whatever produces profits; you know what to avoid — whatever reduces them or makes a loss. And there is at the same time a perfect measuring rod for the degree of success or failure. Let no-one befog the issue by asking whether a particular action is conducive to the wealth and well-being of society, whether it leads to moral, aesthetic, or cultural enrichment. Simply find out whether it pays.” [Op. Cit., p. 215]

But exactly this kind of objection was made by Savage-Rumbaugh (as quoted by Kenneth LeVasseur) against not just one researcher, but whole idea of operant conditioning!

". . . unlike the child, all of the actions carried out by Ake, Rocky, and the others in the test paradigm achieve a single goal--the receipt of a fish to eat (Herman et al. 1984; Herman 1987,, 1988; Schusterman & Krieger 1984, 1988). In the routines of daily life, a child learns to carry out different actions for different ends and becomes a functional partner in the interactions. The correspondence between the communication and its result, that is natural for the child, is not present in the dolphin and sea lion studies. . . .
" . . . The dolphin, however, has little reason to learn in this way, since it
a) cannot make the signs the experimenter makes and
b) probably does not particularly want to 'take the frisbee to the hoop' in any case.
It is more interested in reinstating the 'effect' of receiving a fish than in the actions that were the result of the symbols 'take the frisbee to the hoop.'
". . . This is not to say that these animals lack intentionality and do not communicate to each other or to humans. Within the test situation, however. these capacities have no opportunity for expression. . . .
Children learn many words that permit them to affect their world in many different ways. Dolphins learn many words that affect the world all in the same way (they produce a fish). Until training paradigms are utilized that permit the animal to do more than obtain one type of reward, the subjects cannot be expected to realize their potential for symbolic communication."

So, removing totally wrong set of relations between humans and ex-captives (dolphins)  also very much demand different, non-hierarchical, non-reductionist relations between humans. Especially if we consider Frfact whole thing will most likely happen in standard capitalist society, so following will be more than applicable unless human/human relations at whole project site will be vastly more supportive towards each other (in additional to being supportive to ex-captives!) in direct sense (so skewed economic power overrepresented in std. society will have less impact than usual on those humans) than it is typical for modern times!

Another quote from AFAQ:

Thus if the president of company X has a mystical experience of oneness with nature and starts diverting profits into pollution control while the presidents of Y and Z continue with business as usual, the stockholders of company X will get a new president who is willing to focus on short-term profits like Y and Z. As Joel Bakan stresses, managers of corporations have a legal duty to put shareholders’ interests above all others ... Corporate social responsibility is thus illegal — at least when it is genuine.” Ones which choose social and environmental goals over profits — who try and act morally — are, in fact, immoral” as their role in both the economy and economic ideology is to make much as much money as possible for shareholders.” [The Corporation, pp. 36–7 and p. 34] “

For combating such outcome much more direct support between humans should be maintained. (who also must be deep thinkers, be able to regulate themselves, self-critical and seek some unusual goal - so even if they not politically anarchists - they better to share some of key features of anarchism!). Relying on external monetary donations or rich visitors will easily put whole project under hammer of very system it tries to at least avoid, and at best successfully combat as example of different kinds of relations, not limited to anthropocentered relations!


But this relatively lately found by me (A.R.) anarchist view put serious doubts on realisation of Ken’s initial idea about transforming dolphinarium into such community place, where really mutually supportive mixed-species commune may live. What kind of event must happen to even ‘progressive’ dolphin owner for him or her (unfortunately female dolphin trainer, dolphin owner, etc not really softer than males!) to abandon not just dolphin exploitation, but human exploitation, environment exploitation, and so on? May be such transformation still possible with some humans, but at least Ken’s own attempt at it while filming “Beneath the Blue” movie failed - none at this captive swim-with facility was moved enough to become visible supporter of idea! (for some details you can start at https://wayofthedolphinblog.wordpress.com/dolphin-issues/ )

In personal communications with Ken we agreed this everpresent in capitalists fear of bankruptcy (“what we will do if most/all dolphins will need to go for some even more extended period of time?”) must be realistically addressed, probably by completely shifting monetary-generating activity from being _depended_ on dolphin’s real continued presence - yet now I’m not sure just allowing same mindset to ruin just slightly different part of life is acceptable. Probably some can be convincing by showing how capitalism as practicized today IS reductionism, and thus ignoring ‘capital’ of social relations, and dolphins know how to make a lot of very attractive relations with their human friends (they are masters of such relations, not depleted by all our material culture confusion! Yes, ors are depleted, because we can easily confuse social and personal relations with desire for some material items or money, and all this exaggregated by specific of our dominative nature).

Scott Taylor in his vision of ‘Dolphin Village” did remarkable error, assuming whole dolphin/human place must be multi-deca-million-dollars luxury resort, attractive and factually accessible only by rich elite. Lets not resort to such thing, especially because it was envisioned as nothing more but even more glamorized captivity! Place must be attractive by its ability to support life, starting from very basic food (for both or more than two species ...with dolphin’s area much extending into sea/ocean, literally limitless) and spiraling up to all kinds of social support we value.

Another key point from both anarchist’s tradition and philosophy - is to make direct action/practice, not just use ‘donate’ button. Why? At very least because it gives a lot more - feels of temperature and distance, sounds of the sea and rocky landscapes, better understanding of your limits and limitations and possibilities hidden in reality. I (AR) experienced this myself during failed attempt at freeing captive dolphins Delfa and Zeus in late 2015-early 2016.
But main problem in realization of any truely alternative project seems to be (after overcoming initial unability to think outside the box, and when ideas become widespread enough to become workable) exactly highly unequal and hierarchical nature of current human society - any ‘deviant’ project torpedoed not just by existing laws, but by more mainstream activists and their organizations! Our documents hopefully will help to make some ideas more advanced and coherent - but they alone can’t help with breaking this barrier between theoretical possibility and practice. May be law-related problems sometimes overestimated and overstated by proponents of mainstream views - especially if we talk about supporting ex-captives by human people who already live in area, not some specialized ‘project’ with its need to be law-obeying to the last dot in lawbook. But then if exactly moving captives to sea currently tied to some mainstream perspective about ‘providing safe and professional (!) secured (!!) place’ - we definitely need some political work! Political in sense of providing transfer for captives (this process in itself was mostly ignored by activists - even if it remain quite stressfull for cetaceans and their experience during it may hugely impact their behavior on arrival! We developed some ideas about starting human/cetacean re-relations very early simply for facultating even transport process itself in much more cetacean-friendly manner than it currently can be done by dolphinarium industry standards of (non)care, yet attempts at implementing those ideas also blocked by unsettling hierarchical power from dolphianrium industry, now also way too well represented in ‘anti-captivity’ activist’s circles), yet effectively suppressing development of new captive place! With usual caution about nature of human politics - in attempt to buy support humans often make all sort of nice promises, yet after coming to power they even literally shot down ex-comrades, and break from their promised goals! So, allowing anyone to gain even ‘moderate’ by society’s mainstream standards control over how it must be done, about who will allowed to enter and who will not, any reuse of State/corporate/institutional power must be effectively resisted. “How?” is very open question ....

Notes
[3] - http://dolphintale.com/Interspecies... - “Large scale thinking is required, and a huge commitment by the Human family to this new level of relationship. To develop the type of coastal environment ideal for the interspecies villages of the future will cost tens of millions of dollars. (The Waikaloa Hilton Hotel on Hawaii has Dolphins living in it’s artificial lagoon, and the development costs of the hotel were reported to be around $350 million dollars.....)”. Speaking about what was envisioned by Lilly - at least in the “The mind of the dolphin” he emphasized and highlighted necessarity of _voluntary_ contact. Quote from very end of book: (p. 275) “It is suggested that shallow water "parks" be established. Such parks would be in areas which the dolphins naturally seek. The underwater and abovewater facilities are to be designed so as to allow voluntary contacts between the species. Neither man nor dolphin are to be constrained in their own or in the other's medium. “ (word voluntary was highlighted in italics in original text) But I guess this fixation on hugely visual attractive luxury resorts as model disabled most of real development, even at concept level. Yes, there was small ‘interspecies village’ at Hawaii around local libre dolphins, yet its impact on situation with human/cetacean relation was nowhere big enough - it just survived in parallel with bigger captive place!  :( -  http://www.joanocean.com/Human-do.h...

Saturday, February 10, 2018

Just many questions about our human condition, with very few half-hints at answers.

Humans, why we sucks and what to do about it.

1. Problem at developmental stages.


1.1 excessive authority of parents/school
1.2 not so symbolical (just expressed via symbols/language) violence
1.3 natural shitstrorms at specific age
1.4 behaviorist approach, like when teachers more interested in external aspect of behavior than in cultivating deep thinking
1.5 competative in wrong sense setup
1.6 may be even completely wrong pace of teaching, dictated by need to make human part of (arguably broken, sucking them and everyone) society.
1.7 Culture transferred as a whole, without attention to  how elements of it actually affect beings
1.8 even currently-known bits about psychological quirks (like Milgram’s experiment on authority’s dangers) really ignored.
1.8.1 Abuse of dominance theory ….
1.9 Our child tales too...removed from real-world, cultivating idea we as adults  rel. easily can solve, or worse SOLVED already our biggest problems, while in fact we can’t


2. Problem at ‘adult’ stage
2.1 You forced to spend too much time just making sure you will have most basic things, like food and house.
2.2 very few humans remain curious about how world work into their 30s and 40s and beyond.
2.3 Humans confuse (very dangerously) quest for knowledge with quest for power, unfortunately current society leaves them little to no alternative
2.4 Late years (post 60ish?) tend to be marked  with at very least bigger and bigger time required to get new idea, let alone  less and less desire to dive into NEW concepts and details, especially if you were beaten over attempts at making progress in all your previous life
2.5 Amount of truely free time/effort one can give to others tend to be small.
2.6 assumptions about equality of two groups of humans often turned out to be untrue (more powerful human nearly always less sensitive to voices from around, and thus makes greater errors and least like to ack this, blocking progress much more than helping it)
2.7 Humans stuck into improving easy parts of problem solving, like writing about it, but when it comes to action often no-one actually can carry it out, with real-world pressure against implementation true to plans.
2.8 Humanities currently in some kind of stone age, compared to other sciences. Humans just thrown their own behavior at wall and hope it somewhat will help them. Human engineering can’t be done if we just ignore half of forces and phenomena in human life because we dislike them, and prefer them to disappear. Human engineering often misused as way to craft humans into serving current society… Anthropocentrism thus is all about human narcissism, not geniue understanding of ourselves.
2.9 Not being honest and being overly optimistic about real amount/quality of moral (ethical, better) progress actually play very bad joke with us ..humans told everyone they change, while in fact they not change enough.
2.10 Humans much more interested to maintain their current position (within current society), even if it knowingly will lead to problems to everyone at some point later..
2.11 Thinking without way to carry it out is disabled (sorry, repeating myself)
2.12 Some associations work for too little time, like year or two instead of 10 or 15 years required for cementing new way of thinking/acting.
2.12.1 Having more than two different humans support each other tend to be uncommon, if all of them  above-mainstream in their quality of understanding....
2.13 Having majority of untrusted humans around you sucks big time, likewise having trusted humans who just overstate themselves and fail too easily also sucks…
2.14 humans still confuse authority with objectiveness.
2.15 perfecting one narrow field completely block progress in required associated fields (like, going vegan in food after some point just consume all your  thinking resources and you become blind to real live beings around you …)
2.16 real self-discoveries, and real picture of the world tend to be dark, so humans  retract into _unfounded_ optimism about themselves and fate of the world around them.
2.16.1 But being warrior for change by itself is trap, if you follow usual road of gathering more and more power, because you can’t honestly outdo exploiters (who already out there, gathering their crowds by demagogy), without becoming one...
2.17 Truely revolutionary thinking tend to lurk in some unlit corners, done often (but not always) by lesser-known authors..so, they ignored as ‘freaky’, because 2.14
2.18 Nearly all words/ideas and concepts already very used by humans who make them 180 turn on its head, so you can’t simply say this idea will work because it contains all good words and intentions. Worse, tons of overlysugared words usually come from worst humans, who attempt to make themselves look 101% good. (at least this can be indicative!)
2.19 As fast as you assume you can’t make error - you will make one. BIG one, usually ….
2.20 Is our demand for debate actually makes us _nothing more_ than debaters? “Convince me!” become not call for finding some hidden reality, but _just_ call for intellectual fight. It can be impressive when you first see it ...but impression quickly become negative one, after you realize this type of battle mostly breed  fighters and pushers, who often just easily drop all this uncovered-via-hard-work-‘truth’ for some cont. debate/social  reason :/ How to combat this tendency? May be by helping loosing side (less mainstream, less supported) as  a rule? Like helping your opponent with ideas, materials, books, carrying out something, be it observation or building, alongside your own line, and looking for similar behavior from ‘opponent’?
2.21 Are we fail into overspecialization trap, where required/extreme inclusiveness, acceptance and support of new ideas and unusual humans just never progress beyond some group? Like programmers can be extremely sensitive to some technological angle, and completely deaf, even aggressive against philosophy and other ‘soft sciences’.  And counterpart of this problem, when humans proclaim their so universal humanity you started to wonder how they supposed to pull it off IRL …. {we can’t realistically support ALL humans, only some quite small number of them in any given time}. Of course last one apparently driven to absurd extreme by bigger and bigger demand for humanity/humane, in the world where a lot of officially supported trends exactly drag you backward, combined with some self-image inflation...
2.22 unability to actually abstract problem from real-world examples AND use this new understanding for preventing similar, or less-obviously-similar problems from occuring also ...sucks. Yes, this is again about overspecialization, too - too few humans  accept thinking as normal mode of life, as something truely required, and important. Humans prefer to think thinking only needed at work, or in some situations, and/or only should be done by some humans...well, thinking is painful and effort-heavy. And alone and in itself not helping. And can’t be performed alone. But with ‘dark’ side of progress pushing forward and forward into more complexity...do we have any real way but TO THINK with better quality, as much as we can, not as little as possible?
2.23 Our life is not homogene, so years of living as honest man can be relatively easily undone and worse (with some kind of megaregression, esp. dangerous because previous history not indicated this as likely variant) by just few giveaways under pressure in critical moment. Likewise, some situations and activities much more provocative, thus, looking again at my dog, our indoor living not really represent our living in general, because rel. short outside walks in fact quite restrictive for dog, and lead to amount of violence (!!) from my side ..yeah, stopping dog by physical force IS violence.
2.24 Demanding from solo human to outperform whole asshole collective is not going to work. (and making another asshole collective for fighting first one is not giving anything positive, just more assholes!) Likewise for asking one to outperform  ALL humans who were unable to solve some hard problem (outside of very specific narrow field, like math) in all those years since start of written history.
2.25 Books are awesome, they can show you [parts of] life as lived by very different to your time and location humans, yet ...they usually unable to make you even remotely as good in personal qualities as even most real writers themselves were ..so, transfer fail …. (I was reading Ken LeVasseur’ and Ben White stories (ref. 2.24 - they both HAVE/had friends who helped them! So, it all was done NOT alone), along with many others ..but while they surely motivated me to behave in more coherent and brave manner in my field - I’m still very far from actually being able to stand for real cetacea ...even for my dogs results are mixed - in some cases I was able to stand and protect them, in others - not.) Meh, I mean you can’t download practical resistance from book!
2.26 There seems to be confusion about peak and sustained resistance ….
2,27 Supporting oppressor equally with those who oppose it - less than half-assed service, more like disservice …. {it probably can be said we *all* serve currently very oppressive humanity as a whole - yeah..I tried to pick those who, IMW, serves this wrong humanity least …}

What to do about all this?

3.1 May be play some self-tricks on yourself, guiding your actions against usual flow? Like, making little good things each time you can (and making sure you will not take this back, so good work not become undone lately), and  for example shutting down computer instead of making angry outburst if you feel too bad? Putting yourself in situation you know (or suspect) you will behave in necessary, but hard to move on your own, direction?

3.1.1 Learn to live on very low-power budget? I mean, don’t drag your dog even if you feel you must, for example …

3.1.2 Making some non-standard type of living (relative to current mainstream) still helps even if not others but at very least you, to  have resistance.

3.1.3 Try to assemble best possible ethical theory of action , from available best literature, and try to live just one step even further from all those works? Ok, this sounds too ambitious, but I try to live by it, even if with just dog atm? I mean, ideas from Erich Fromm on humanities and capitalism and society, ideas from John Lilly on scientists and non-humans with cetacea as focus, ideas of Sue Donaldson and Kymlicka on domesticated non-humans, Alexander Nevzorov’s ideas on horses, Anthony Weston’s ideas on bigger world /mostly libre beings / ..I combine them all in my head, and try to live by resulted combined ethic? Not dismissing any real being, no matter how labeled by humans? Ok, Nevzorov will facepalm looking at my dog walks … :/ Not like living honestly for even ‘just dog’ is easy thing today ...at least in given city.

3.1.4 May be giving some recognition to humans who can stand psychological pressure, because in modern world a lot of hits {with extremely catastrophic consequences}  go via psychology, not via physical punch… Bravety shouldn’t be restricted to physical side only.

Wednesday, November 8, 2017

Open letters to all russian activists

This is a message to all russian activists currently involved in operations against the regional black sea dolphinarium industry and attempting several operations in order to "rescue", "save", and otherwise "free" captive tursiops there. I'm going to be honest with you. I do not support the intention from several of you to build future "rehabilitation centers" "sea hospitals" or so called "sanctuaries" for currently captive cetaceans. What I will talk about is what I've been able to figure out from what Andrew told me and from the written material I've been able to access to and comprehend so far, so it's absolutely possible that I'm making some factual mistakes here. Nevertheless I speak from the heart and I believe my point overall valid whichever the context.
I'm powerless and I don't believe that any of my writings are going to change your mind. But you people need to be fully conscious of the problem at hand and the problematic nature of your beliefs and actions. I know that there is a particularly severe communication issue between our groups because of the language barrier and because your collective mostly use Vk instead of FB. I'm confident that russian friends will accurately translate my message to the concerned third parties. So, here's the thing : A) You're actively collaborating with actors of the dolphinarium industry. There has been at my knowledge at least two separate cases of dolphinarium owning companies suing smaller competing facilities in order to confiscate captives with the explicit help of your group of activists. You people are literally helping dolphinarium owning companies expand. Why ? Because their pens are two meters longer ? Because at least the water isn't chlorinated ? Let remind ourselves that the "rescue" of the two circus dolphins by a dolphinarium company you assisted to were ended in a DAT facility in west crimea (the Stepnaya Gavan delphinariy) in (according to google maps at least) a 22x22m main/show pen and a 10x22 hospital pen. And that Zeus (and arguably Delfa too), the two dolphins you also assisted in the "rescue", died (in something like a 5x5m pen) because Ludmila Kamaeva, the owner of the Utrish dolphinarium, never accepted to release him despite the fact that he was economically unviable, that (flawed, still) alternate propositions by local scientists for his release were given, that efforts were made by some of you to convince her, let alone the pleads from international organizations such as Born Free. Let's face reality here : collaborating with the dolphinarium industry is not only contradictory and ethically unacceptable, but doomed to fail in any case. We should follow the oppressed, not the oppressors.
This isn't a new thing : this is actually one of the main problems with the current "mainstream" international/anglo-speaking activism (especially on the Marino/Visser/WSP side, but not only them), which has no qualm in explicitly collaborating with what were (and should, by all logic) be their enemies, and actually giving room to what appear as a recycled dolphinarium industry with a greenwashed touch. So again, I'm not blaming you as individuals, but I'm blaming you as an organized group and system.

I also remarked that some of you were close or had some involvement with Richard O'barry. Now (and admittedly by contrast with some people on our group) I am not as hostile to Ric's views and actions as I am to people like Marino or Foster. Ric is actually the only "founder" (alongside Ken) which accurately understood that ex-captive were acting as neurotics, that one didn't had to "train" them, and at least on the paper went beyond the behaviorist bullshit that permeates most trainers mind. But he's still a paternalist which is unfortunately stuck in old ways and thoughts. He's adamant in keeping ex-captives in pens, he's a staunch pro-sanctuary. In fact he currently seek to build one in Italy - I made a short article showing the problematic aspects of his project (he wants to use fish pens, the project clearly seeks to be at least partially commercial/touristic in nature...). You can do better than Ric and go beyond those primitive ways. B) You're denying the right of the concerned for autonomy and a political recognition. Cetaceans aren't "wild animals" "domesticated animals" "magnificent creatures" which sight need to be "enjoyed", "the adornment of the sea" (yes, I read that one), or "cute precious sea angels" to coo and baby talk to. They're people, and that notion has very specific implications, namely that 1) their right of autonomy as individuals and as a people needs to be acknowledged : this is the basic right for self-determination 2) The territories and resources they occupy and use should be recognized as primarily theirs and 3) The problem must be understood as a social and political one. We're talking of a people exploiting another people inside of a specific material and historical context. If you chose to continue the ownership and control of these people by building, funding and ruling these new "rehab centers", "sanctuaries" or else, you become the oppressors. I for one am on the side of the oppressed, not of the oppressor, and I consider this as a fight for the self determination and integrity of a people. If you chose the wrong path, I will have to fight you as I do against the dolphinarium industry as a whole.

Let's remind us that this particular population - the black sea ponticus dolphins - is not only subjected of systematized captures and large scale enslavement all over Russia and Ukraine since four decades, but according to this paper : "During the 20th century, the number of cetaceans killed in the former Russian Empire and later the USSR undoubtedly exceeded 1.5 million animals, including all three species, while other Black Sea states together probably killed about four to five million", all this in order to manufacture oil, meat, leather and fertilizer. I seriously think that we owe them something as a people, and what we owe them is surely not the denial of their right for self-determination and their re-enslavement with nicer terms with the complicity of their former oppressors. As for the whole concept of sanctuaries, learn again from history : in many places and time societies planned the systematized institutionalisation of specific categories of oppressed people in order to separate them from society and/or in the name of "care" and "love" : psych wards, retirement homes, magdalene sisters asylums, leper colonies, workhouses etc. Our western and colonial history is littered with such instances. Those were already well theorized by the likes of Michel Foucault and Erving Goffman : total institutions where one is to be endlessly surveilled and controlled, disciplined and punished. If you think this is what ex-captive deserve, you need to read more and take lessons from our collective cultural past. C) Have at least the decency to listen to the concerned first. You're not the concerned. You're - as we all are here as humans - in a position of power over the captives, factually and materially speaking. As human beings you can capture them, handle them, displace them, starve them to death until submission and so on. Our laws and customs perceive this as totally normal and acceptable. They can't fight back. But they can speak, we know that. And we also know how to speak to them. Andrew's friend Vladimiras is currently building up a device that could theoretically help us communicating with those black sea tursiops populations, through a method that was already well theorized by our predecessors (cue to Russell, Ken Levasseur and Vlad Markov's work here). You could join their efforts toward contact or build your own device (something I'm already trying to do on my side in France). Now, what about this : you hold on your projects, you join us in our efforts to contact the very concerned in Crimea and the Krasnodar region, and then, according to what THEY have to say, propose or demand, we act. Our actions would depend of their orders, their exigences, their rules. That would be actually meaningful and important, instead of pursuing some grandiloquent project of a "sanctuary" that amounts to nothing but another form of institutionalisation, with all the injustice and cruelty it implies, no matter how much "care and love" you pour into it. In other words, why putting all your effort and money into building a sanctuary when you could simply join us in building a simple machine and actually act upon what they have to tell us ? And for the most stubborn among you, the one that insist that they pursue such projects because they "feel" this is the best thing to do, despite all the evidences at hand showing the contrary : It should occur to you that maybe you're biased because you're actual human beings in a position of power over cetaceans, raised in a society which understands cetaceans as wild animals or chattel to own and handle, and more generally non-human species as ownable property, and that you have no right to enforce confinement and command on as well as decide of the faith and destiny of an actual people in the name of spontaneous assumptions and fears that are mostly here to justify a search for power, ego and careerism. At least, remind yourselves of your own national history : I believe that the idea of "replacing the old oppressive system with a slightly different oppressive system showing itself as the panacea of freedom and equality" is something you're forebears were familiar with. I did from mine - if there's something that french colonialism taught me, is how easy it is to legitimate oppression with the best of intentions at hand, sugarcoated paternalism, and a good load of internalized hypocrisy and denial. I don't blame you, I blame our societies. But please learn about the mistakes of the past and take responsibility for it. We can chose to become their allies and friends instead of their oppressors, if we take the path of self-criticism, decency and maturity instead of the one of self-interest and ego.

Wednesday, October 25, 2017

Femenist's views on dolphin (but also unavoidable human) problem.

I found few interesting modern works, and want to share  them here, too.

https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1141617/FULLTEXT01.pdf
 ARE YOU READY   FOR A WET LIVE-IN?
EXPLORATIONS  INTO LISTENING


 JANNA HOLMSTEDT

Very big manuscript, and very interesting. There are some quotes I picked up while reading it:


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" As late as 1999, two years before his death, Lilly
presented an idea for a Future Communications Labo-

ratory where dolphins, instead of being held captive,
could voluntarily visit the lab in a variety of areas,
ranging from deep sea (most compatible for the dol-
phins) to dry house (most compatible for the humans).**
Human-dolphin communication would be facilitated in
different ways along this continuum from dry to wet.

** The idea for this lab was presented 1999 as a series of 3D renderings
on Lilly’s website, “The Future Communications Lab,” where a pixe-
lated Lilly at the close of the 20th Century described the concept
of the future facility. Accessed April 4, 2004, 


 http://www.johnclilly.com/futureComm20.html. On August 4, 2016, a film appeared on YouTube, “John C. Lilly: Interview at Future Communications Lab,” posted by “bigtwinNYC,” August 4, 2016, showing Lilly on a virtual set depicting the laboratory, designed by Bigtwin (a.k.a. James Suhre). Lilly was filmed and interviewed for this video in October 1998 in SMA Studios in New York City. Accessed April 17, 2017,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-knqVbghIA
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Interesting, I don't get it this (_voluntary_!) way, but may be I misread teh site .....


after some follow-up I watched video and re-read text at Lilly's website.


Andrew Randrianasulu "The priorities of society are such that our best minds and efforts are lost to a philosophy that if it cannot produce financial gain, it is not worth doing--at the expense of the truth and our environment." (c)

--anyway, I was wrong, yes, despite tho
se elements from today's (and past) captivity it was supposed to be voluntary place. Still, for _inviting_ cetacea to someplace you already need some quite complex communication and trust - and confidence whole thing will not turn into trap (not something you can say about 'default society')! In absence of "tens of millions" (of US dollars) we are forced (hopefully!) to do all this communication thing with friends we have around.

Andrew Randrianasulu but yes, I was wrong and right at the same time - just next page openly demand keeping of current captivity intact, because, meh, "education"! Interestingly, at the same page very correct observations made about scientists who are NOT interested about communicating w/. dolphins because this doesn't bring them money! (and as side note, if they figure out how to make this 'communication' thing bring them money - they will be much interested in reinstansin this moneymaking effect, not any communication, esp. if it threatened their main monetary motive!). So, page is selfcontradicting ... Education imagined as something magical, like, you put 100 humans into dolphinarium, hit 'Educate" button, and they come out educated! Well, this doesn't work this way - without thinking, and critical thinking, years and decades of thinking - it all will be too fragmentary and just way to manipulate someone at best. No _accurate_ image of reality can be approximated this way, with just fragment of thinking drowned in sea of enforced stupidarity! Anyway, Lilly is dead for more than 15 years ..no point to argue with dead man..but lets not repeat very same mistake about 'instant (human) education' and underestimating power of monetary flow (not just amount!) have on current humans. Dolphinarium is place where money keep its owners captive, they keep their human workers captive, and those in turn keep captive audience/visitors and cetacea themselves, who are at the bottom of this sea of shit, not allowed to do anything! And while captivity CAN generate strong supporters of cetacea (me, Russell, Ken ...) - it does so only in conjunction with producing literally MILLIONS of sheeple, who are way too tolerant to any powerful voice who want to keep those beings captive(and/or do other intolerable things). So, captivity only support itself ...And very fact you can't do anything truely dolphin-centered today is very good indicator of this. Also, this utilitarian thinking 'oh, there are much more killings of cetacea in the world, so captivity is non-issue!' is BS. Same self-supporting acute disrespect/destruction at work here. Even worse, because it morphing into something 'quite acceptable' with all those TALKS about 'rehabilitation', caring, etc, etc. While in reality they just apply same non-ethics to real non-humans, it just covered more colorifully for humans!

Anyway, read for yourself:
http://www.johnclilly.com/futureComm41.html

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In OOZ projects, for example, the concept of the zoo is turned around. Every
OOZ site consists of an “an architecture of reciprocity,”

and “an information architecture of collective obser-
vation and interpretation.” Unlike Hall’s Enki Experi-
ment, there are no cages or aquariums and the animals
are there by choice. In some set-ups the animals can
trigger a prerecorded human voice, that urges the hu-
man to act in a specific way, for example to deliver a
dose of beaver biscuits to the hungry beaver or provide
a service to a pigeon.24 Through these various reversed
system designs, where animals can trigger acousmatic
human voices, anthropomorphism could be said to
be used as a tool to address environmental concerns
and issues of interconnectedness. Communication is
approached in terms of shared ecology rather than as
a question of information transmission.*
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Another very interesting idea, very close to role-reversal thing I first found by reading Ken LeVasseur's texts. But I think we need to make it work at deeper, more complex level.


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** In ancient Greece, it was believed that knowledge could not be
stored in books, only in living bodies inhabiting space. Writing and

reading were not regarded as tools for transferring knowledge. On the
contrary, Plato argued that the technology of writing would produce
forgetfulness – because the reader is seduced by the written word to
believe that thoughts and wisdom can be fixed once and for all and
tends to forget that knowledge is a living thing.
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this is unusual (for me) reading of Plato ...still, I haven't read him at all, yet!


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Art as a social action or event, thus, is at risk of being reduced to
spectacle or contributing to an aestheticization of the service economy where all critique eventually drowns or is hugged to death.
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There was reference to book "Cosmodolphins", I was unable to find full text online, but surely I found fragment of it:

http://archeologia.women.it/user/cyberarchive/files/lykke-bryld.html

Cosmodolphins. Feminist Cultural Studies
of Technology, Animals and the Sacred


by: Mette Bryld and Nina Lykke
 
 
well, re-watching Lilly's interview AFTER reading this fragment definitely was eye-opener!
 
 And finally, there was some thesis based on reading "Cosmodolphins" book!


Andrew Randrianasulu
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“When presented with the idea of making a major lifestyle change that would involve moving from land to sea, only 3 of the 107 women interviewed rejected their partner’s proposed change outright and chose not to cruising. Som
e of the 104 women who took the risk of embracing the idea were eager participants from the outset: their primary question was ‘how soon can we leave?’ […] 0 percent of the women let their fear of water or lack of sailing experience prevent them from making a change”(Cantrell 2000, 16–08).
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this of course can be biased view ......


Also, I tend to disagree with Janna's view of Marino, Herzing and co as female alt.heroes - they unfortunately turned out to be too dominant type for actually becoming any alternative. But for some reason Janna's name in itself sounded much alike name of  female character in Vernor Vinge's sci-fi called "A fire upon the deep" - where contact with group-mind aliens was made by young humans, who were forced to find their way to make Contact..as additional twist those group minds communicated at ultrasound frequencies, but were good imitators. I don't think our real cetacea are group minds in classical sense - yet I found this interinfiltartion of ideas quite ...interesting!

Also, may be if humans will be able to tell _interesting_ stories to cetacea - it will be  something valuable for them, too! Thanks, Janna, for  digging out all this massive of info, and adding your own life/thinking to it!

What exactly we still mean under term social relations with cetacea

This is repost from our Facebook group.

Just something I think we better to define very clearly.
What exactly we still mean under term social relations with cetacea (from biggest whales to smallest porpoise-like beings, inclusive).
1) Making humans useful (!), callable by cetacea, _for specific or non-specific tasks_. See role reversal? Humans making themselves available for dolphin's tasks!
1.1) For this we better to learn how to recognize our true intentions, how to be honest, and how to guide themselves toward some very uncommon goal ...
1.2) This includes abandoning of this 'natural' for us hierachism as everyday practice.
1.2.1) Setting dolphins as 'higher' beings has unfortunate (?) side-effect of some active impotency - like, if they so superior - they don't need any help and we can't do anything meaningful for them. Drop this!
1.2.2) Our real empathy tend to be completely non-functional - humans _easily_ can command other humans to electroshock/kill some other humans - and all this considered normal! Within 'humanistic' society :( So, don't rely on this 'we are soo damn humane and civilized!" We are not, and our real empathy sense IS constantly killed and/or twisted. I don't think we really can feel directly someone's mental and/or physical pain - but we can and must 'emulate' such empathy with senses we have, and thinking we can develop.
1.3) with results of such new practice measured accurately, and not on basis 'I think I made progress, so no need for self-checking..'. Progress on those matters usually hard and painful, no happiness-seekers will make it far enough w/o not so harmless lying. There is one thing we better to follow absolutely, from philosophical/scientific toolbox - never allow some force to become invisible because you don't want to see it - be it force inside you, or in human society surrounding you. Of course just recognizing there IS force doesn't protect by magic - you must spend time accurately testing yourself (as always-here animal!) what you can do for realistically countermaneuring some of those newly discovered tendencies, and/or how to put them in good use for cetacea! {actually, this is applicable for non-cetacea, too)
2) For 1. you need _real_ communication, not just feeling of it...it can be of any nature, but you better to have it working, because life of everyone will be dependent on reality/consistency of such link. Of course, it better to start small, but eventually things will escalate to serious (=real) levels. Abstract linguistic communication thus become not just some trick, but vital component of common defense, and communal life. From avoiding man-created problems - to just simple social chat at free time.
3) Friends are much more than just players, at least in cetacea's world. So, giving something, protecting, worrying etc all must be real, and collective (with cetacea) work must be seen as real life, something to live until the end, not nice, droppable at any time thing.
4) Giving is MUCH more important than taking, because..I don't know, for dolphins and other beings who care about social relations it just work (unlike with humans!) - you give a lot - and shortly enough something good will come your way ..something bad will come too, sometimes...and friends are friends because they can live and help each other in turbulent times, not just when everything is ok-ish.
5) Focus on helping cetacea's themselves - not by human proxy (so, it about making human collectives, but NOT about lobbying some govt or similar power abuser) .. Its not about studying them, or anything of this sort ..under-standing, yes, like helping them, metaphorically speaking, reach surface in time ....cycle after cycle.
6) Making whole thing not easily killable by 'external' factors, like dominant ideology, or internal leveling-off ...
7) Allow cetacea actually act on you, physically. This tend to escalate into some kind of masochistic trend in me , but mostly because so many humans only accept _their_ right for touching (and handling, in worst sense of this word), and deny completely right of other side to do the same! I think our own desire to maintain our body unharmed more than enough for avoiding really bad things. But still, there is another moment - negative emotions like anger negative because they are painful! So, don't pain dolphins (and co) by angering them ...
8) Please drop individualism. From very physical to very fine aspects of psychology - individual human _alone_ can't effectively help even smallest cetacea, unless we talk about very short-timed episodes, not something lasting. If you drop poor beluga at top of me - we both will be dead as result! Don't do this metaphorically speaking too - don't force anyone to keep whole weight of responsibility - it all completely unnatural and impossible to do. Again, drop individualism and those unvoiced, but very feelable calls to "oh, just show us something uberheroic, and we will start to consider looking into your thinking .." Such BS! :( (this is often subconscious, but I actually got this voiced at me, at times, openly).
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